mal schauen, ob ich auch einen Link hinbekomme..
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1.Post
in manitoba there are alot of women drum groups coming out. and lately i been asking myself should women sing at the drum but i guess where it has found me contemplating is as well considering the fact that it wasnt too long ago that wmn dancers were not allowed in the powwow circle.
i was watching an interview (i think it was on the powwow trail) they interviewed a lady from the crow reservation. and she said when she started around the 1940s shawlin, that was not accepted. she specifically said that different items like rocks and shoes were thrown at them when they first started dancing.
So historically speaking, the participation of women in powwows has come a long but in my perspective has a long ways to go. like what the powwows original purpose? what did our ancestors really anticipate with this gathering? and whos really to say who can or cannot dance or sing? i guess these are the fundamental questions that we must ask ourselves...personally i believe every tribe has their own unique ways of doing things and whos the say what is right and what is wrong?
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2.Post von einer anderen Lady:
I have to share some of what I know here...because it is a gift that i carry. I am the lead singer for the womens drum here in Sagkeeng and we take it all over. We go all over mostly in NW Ontario (LOTW area) because this is where we are welcomed. These are traditional people, they never close their door on us and welcome us like any real traditional community or area would.
We do not set up at Powwows or communities where it is not accepted. We always ask the old men on the traditional drums if we can set up and they share the story with the rest of the people there so there is an understanding.
I will share a lil story with you here about when we went to Eagle Lake, Ontario. Just last year was the first time we set up over there. We have been going there for a long time but this is the first time we set up over there. The first thing I did before we even took out our drum was we talked to the old men, the ones who carry traditional drums. I gave this old man tobacco and I asked him if we could set up, and he looked at me and he said to me " I should be giving you the tobacco, you are coming here to share a gift that you women have been given and we are honored that you have come to share it with our community."
This is traditional. None of those old men who carry the old teachings ever would ridicule us because of what we have.
There are other womens drum groups in this area, I will mention a few:
*Keesis Weyabb womens Drum (Sagkeeng First Nation)
*Red Drum Womens Society (Sandy Bay First Nation)
*Grassy Narrows Womens Drum (Grassy Narrows Oji Nation)
*White Turtle Womens Drum (Wpg)
*SweetGrass Road Womens Drum(Wpg)
*Eagle Lake womens drum(Wpg)
*Wanesa (Roseau River First Nation)
I dont belive that women singing on a drum is a bad thing, if it is then its just as bad as a women going into a sweat, or sundancing, or even dancing at a powwow.
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gibt natürlich auch genauso viele Cons....
http://www.powwows.com/gathering/showthread.php?t=19554&page=4&pp=15&highlight=Dream+drum
irgendwo da ist der thread aufgeführt...
Is sicher interessant , sich mal das volle Program an Meinungen durchzulesen....
Einen direkten Link zu dem Thread hab ich leider nicht hinbekommen.... ist aber unter "northern singing" und heißt "all woman drum groups"..
Gruß von Elke [Geändert von Elke am Sonntag, März 12, 2006 @ 22:09]
